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No Terror Links Yet.  

Spoke to Attorney Ed Hayes, retired CIA officer Larry Johnson, re the Ft. Hood shooter Hasan, and there is so far agreement that his crime looks much closer to Columbine than it does to a jihadist murder raid.  Lonely, tormented, isolated, frightened, cruel, and possibly self-medicated human being living inside a delusion that was based on random fantasies of his life, his religion, his purpose.  Columbine.  And there never has been a better explanation for the Columbine massacre than that the shooters vanished into a rage that murdered before it was consumed.  My source from the West Bank, where Hasan's family still lives, finds no connection to organized jihad.  The investigation continues, but in the first 80 hours, no credible, demonstrable links to known terror gangs.  

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It’s almost sinfully easy to blame such things on individual parts, just barely connected and relevant to the machine overall, which (we are told) appears to be functioning just fine. A part here and there can be expected to go bad, after all. Simply replace it or find a way to bypass the stress point altogether.

I don't buy it for a moment. We once had a furnace that would break down every year at least once - usually on the coldest day of the year. One time it happened on Christmas when the house was full of guests. We would call service and they would dutifully come over and replace the broken part. It was always the same part. ...until one of the guys took the time to explain, that our thermostat wasn't set properly. We adjusted it and never again had a problem.

It's the same with the Fort Hood shooter. We can say it's no big deal, take him out, and keep our fingers crossed. It isn't the first time it's happened and won't be the last. Ignore the engine light on the dashboard. It's the light that’s got the short. Take the bulb out if it disturbs you. Kill the messenger; problem solved. Refuse to recognize jihad's violent tide spreading across the globe. Three monkeys sitting on a wall: one, with its hands over its eyes; another, covering its ears; the third, holding its nose. That's how we make problems go away in Obama's America.

And don’t get me started about Columbine. Do you have any idea of what they’re teaching these kids?

http://peterkoelliker.blogspot.com/

Is terror only terror when it is organized. Does a lone suicide bomber not count when he/she acts on his/her own? Is it something like "When more than one are gathered in its name?" What is terror actually? Are we playing word games here?

Also, what was behind the Columbine shootings? Do we know the whole story? It seems to me a lot of stuff was kept quiet.

Simply, the fact of the matter is that Hasan was being ordered to report for a tour of duty which he personally rejected as being necessary, yet, was obligated to fulfill. His appeals that he personally be allowed an exception had been exhausted and his world was collapsing quickly. He personally struck out against the societal structure that he perceived had been and would continue to demean him because of his idiosyncrasies.

Once again, speculative perversion is engaged with fantasy and three monkeys (one curiously out of character) and it is repulsive to link this tragedy with a recurring theme of dislike for the President of the United States.

Keep getting lower and lower there Peter. What did they teach you in your school???

The issue is not AlQaeda, the issue centers around a set of very violent beliefs. The Muslim reformation will not come soon enough!

Perhaps you have not served in the military, Spencer...officers don't personally reject tours of duty as "necessary" or unnecessary...they don't ask to be "allowed an exception." This is a voluntary army... if he had become aware that the military fights wars that he "just can't commit to" he should have quit and paid back his medical education expenses. And one other thing, in a voluntary, professional army, officers are usually not "demeaned" by those below them on the chain of command.

He planned and executed an attack on American soldiers, on American soil. I know what that's called and so do others on this forum. All the psychobabble you can dish, won't change that.

At this juncture I don't accept the "he snapped" explantion. And I find that just as "speculative" as the "terrorist" version.
But my speculation is that this event passed the duck test. It walks, talks, stalks like an islamic attack, twisted as they all must be into an individual's personal story.
The chances that he was harassed are quite low. The military comes down on that like a hammer. What's more, this guy was a Captain/Major. That means no one is going to pick on him with a rank less than that. And my experience is that senior officers don't engage in that business.

To me, until proven otherwise, individual mulims are capable of "going al quaeda" even if they have don't carry an official card. In fact, it seems clear a jihadi strategy is to incite unaffiliated muslim's to take their own local action--sort of like Amway. The webistes and emails provide the rarah and sometimes the instructions for violent, jihadi action.

My guess is that if he was a white guy from DesMoines and asked to excused from duty, he'd be drummed out of the service.

That said this guy has many earmarks of a weak individual who was easier than normal prey for radical islamic perversion. It could be a very nice rationalization for one's violet fantasies brought on my personal ineffectiveness, frustration, hyper-religiosity etc.

Our government is trying too hard to get us to believe its version of the deal. Sadly, our government has long ago ripped up its credibility card. Thanks to people like Obama, Pelosi and Reid we no longer trust the government - "nothing is real; and nothing to get hung about..."

POLITICAL CORRECTNESS WILL BE THE DEATH OF THE WEST

If someone yelled an ethnic, misogynist or gay slur before an attack, it's a hate crime. But when Hasan yells the same thing suicide bombers yell before they blow up innocent people, it's Columbine. How convenient.

Listening to Fred Burton the other night it's almost like he forgot he co-authored last week's Stratfor report on moving from post-attack investigations -- who -- to pre-attack surveillance techniques -- how. Lone wolf murderers may be the next wave of Jihad. However, it's not new.

Global Security and Intelligence Report

By Scott Stewart and Fred Burton

In the 11th edition of the online magazine Sada al-Malahim (The Echo of Battle), which was released to jihadist Web sites last week, al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) leader Nasir al-Wahayshi wrote an article that called for jihadists to conduct simple attacks against a variety of targets. The targets included "any tyrant, intelligence den, prince" or "minister" (referring to the governments in the Muslim world like Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Yemen), and "any crusaders whenever you find one of them, like at the airports of the crusader Western countries that participate in the wars against Islam, or their living compounds, trains etc.," (an obvious reference to the United States and Europe and Westerners living in Muslim countries)....

Same thing I was saying-- he was trying to get out and couldn't

I used the word that he was "personally" seeking remedy for reconciliation with his developing mental state.

My postings on this matter are meant to reaffirm what the investigators are telling us--- Don't Jump to Conclusions!!! The facts will come out. Trouble is, some people have already determined what the facts are and they don't know anything about it.

Remember that the reporting to begin with was that the shooter had been killed by a cop who had died, also.

As you can see, it's already turned into a conspiracy to cover up... in some peoples' opinion.

Jeez--

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