La Gloria Challenged By Mexico's Chief Epidemiologist.
Days after the European media identified the the mega pig farm "manure lagoon" of La Gloria in Veracruz State as the most likely source of the A/H1Ni outbreak, the chief epidemiologist of Mexico M.A. Lezana (right -- far right) has directly challenged the solution. "Highly improbable," asserts Dr. Lezana. Smithfield Foods of Virginia asserts that it's one million pigs in the CAFO at La Gloria are virus free and that it is a Mexican company to blame. Lezana's office says that the pigs at La Gloria are from North America and the genetic material in the virus are from North America and Europe. After this cross-purpose blame-shifting, the Mexican authorities advance a novel and creative explanation. Lezana says that among the first mortalities was a Bangladeshi born street vendor in Mexico City who fell ill in early April. No names. The man is said to have met his brother in Merida, Yucatan in early April and returned to Mexico City before he died. The assertion is that the brother, a Bangladeshi or a Pakistani, was also ill. No names.
What of La Gloria's Famous Five Year Old?
Until the unnamed Bangladeshi street vendor was introduced into the mystery plot, the star suspect Patient Zero was five (not four) year-old Edgar Hernandez of La Gloria. Edgar, who is as photogenic as a Hollywood hero (right), is now healthy and extremely clever about his identification. He lives with his mother Maria del Carmen Hernandez and his baby brother. He likes to run around pretending to cough at the camera men and say that he feels "Bad, very bad," and then laugh. Mom Maria says that Edgar fell ill with a fever and headache in early April. The Financial Times timeline says it was April 2. His mom took him for healthcare, and he recovered swiftly. However many others in La Gloria fell ill. Smithfield sprayed the town to fight the cloud of flies that hovers over the CAFO and the neighborhood. Other residents says that the pig waste from Smithfield's manure lagoon pollutes their water. There is a long-running dispute between La Gloria and Smithfield. Smithfield and its highly pressured CEO Larry Pope denies everything. Mexican officials confirm that Edgar Hernandez did carry the A/H1N1 virus, but they have not confirmed any other resident did or does. No one else in Edgar's family got sick at all. A state public health doctor says, "We just don't know how he (Edgar) got sick. Maybe it was a genetic accident of some kind."
The Mystery Continues.
Edgar Hernandez's fly swarmed home in La Gloria, Veracruz State is a long way from two Bangladeshi/Pakistani brothers in Merida, Yucatan. Also, the Financial Times timeline points to a La Gloria health official requesting assistance in February for an outbreak of an acute respiratory disease; and on April 6 there was a health alert in La Gloria with a 400 seeking medical treatment. You are correct if you conclude that the search for Patient Zero continues. Jason Gage, Bloomberg, told me on Sunday 26 from Singapore that the genetic material in the A/H1N1 had been identified as North American swine flu, Eurasian avian flue, and North American human flu. How did Edgar become positive on April 2 if not for the pigs of La Gloria? And why cannot Smithfield find the A/H1Ni in one million pigs -- all of whom will be slaughtered soon enough unless that Bangladeshi subplot fleshes out. More soon.
Interesting in that the toddler death in Texas was stated: REUTERS
Following is a chronology of key dates in the case, as provided by Texas state health officials:
April 4 - A 22-month-old boy travels with his family to Matamoros, Mexico, from Mexico City on a commercial flight, to visit relatives in Brownsville, Texas, just across the border.
April 8 - boy develops fever and influenza-like symptoms.
April 13 - boy admitted to Brownsville area hospital.
April 14 - medical transport service transfers boy to Texas Children's Hospital in Houston, which has a world-class medical center.
April 27 - boy dies of underlying problems associated with pneumonia.
April 29 - U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention confirm that boy had swine flu, making him the first confirmed U.S. death of the disease.
(Sources: Texas Department of State Health Services, Houston Department of Health and Human Services, Texas Children's Hospital)
Besides having lost confidence in government and language, we have also lost confidence in science. It's all been politicized to the point of irrelevance. We blindly believe what the last person told us (unless, of course this happens to be a Republican). People like Barney Frank no longer have to fear becoming entangled in the web of his own lies. The latest lie is all that counts. Memory has become the extravagant tool of those who would confuse us with fact. We all have collectively succumbed to Alzheimer's.
M. A. Lenzana has simply taken a page from our own book. Deny; shift blame; say anything. They will believe. Until, of course, somebody says something else - something that might contradict what I just said. Usually, it never goes that far; but if it should, that's when we'll plug in the microphones again and say anything to make everybody forget whatever was said before ...and so on; and so on.
By the way, I've heard nothing about Republicans in connection with anything for quite some time. Are they still bothering to come to work?
INOCULATING PIGS
Is it possible that the chart above has left out a third form of flu transmission to pigs --
that of being inoculated? I heard (fog of war, probably wrong) that Smithfield inoculated its pigs so they wouldn't get sick. However, with one million pigs, it's very likely something can go wrong: Maybe some vaccine was too strong, too weak, wrong strain, etc? Or a few pigs were missed. Last time swine flu reared its ugly snout, more people got sick (died?) from
the vaccine than the flu.
The swine flu is a genetically made virus. This is a distraction from the 10 trillion banker bailout and Bush/Cheney war crimes.
The bird flu usually is from Asian and goes west. It is mathmatically impossible for these viruses to combine. A leading expert on Russian TV said this virus as all the hallmarks of it being man-made.
Donald Rumsfeld is still a stakeholder in TamiluFlu. I bet his stock portfoilo is doing really fantastic right now. Rumsfeld should be in jail like the other former Bush cronies.
What does an expert on Russian TV know about the Hallmarks of Viruses?
I'm not so sure about little Eddie here. Where's the nexus to the plexus?
No other LaGloria resident has been verified with the strain. There are two children whose parents will not let their bodies be exhumed, but, if the child from Matamoros traveled to Mex City then on to Brownsville where he fell ill (confirmed H1N1) within days on April 8 and little Eddie was in LaGloria and fell ill April 2, the incubation time for the manifestation of symptoms and communicability doesn't congeal.
It seems Mex City is the nexus. What am I missing?
From Rassmussen daily presidential tracking poll : Obama's approval rating the lowest it's ever been, at only +2. This is calculated as percent strongly approving less percent strongly disapproving, which at the moment is +34 - 32 = +2. Stay tuned, it has a definite downward bias.
Like I always do when there's a supposed crisis, I've been doing the opposite of what I'm supposed to do - I've been eating pork sausage, going around people who cough and sneeze in public places, and taking long, lingering walks around the local manure lagoon (aka the L.A. River). Live Free (of fear) Or Die, my friends.
"And now was acknowledged the presence of the Red Death. He had come like a thief in the night. And one by one dropped the revellers in the blood-bedewed halls of their revel, and died each in the despairing posture of his fall. And the life of the ebony clock went out with that of the last of the gay. And the flames of the tripods expired. And Darkness and Decay and the Red Death held illimitable dominion over all."
"Masque of the Red Death" - Poe
Mike - You may have something there and don't discount deliberate. Do you realize that the perp in the Dutch parade attack has still only been identified as "a black car"?
Peter: Too bad some innocents had to die in getting the Dutch Royalty. The Global elite want 80% of the population dead. Check the Georgie Guidestones if you dont believe me. Prince Charles said if he could be reincarnated he would like to be a virus to wipe the population out. Im sure the Bilderburg Group, Kissinger who calls the population "useless eaters" like to get rid of us cattle too.
From The Outsidelookinginistan Daily Reporter News and The One Quirky World Wegister comes this:
Before their rapidly approaching court date, Captain Kangaroo has suggested to Mr Greenjeans that he reads "Bush at War" and "Jawbreaker" in preparation for the Slanderlust hearing. It was told by a totally *relioble? yet alunimunum anomnymous spokpreson that there will be no Malic ervice for the undisputable indubitol facts (no spashol dlevre, ether) however though that and that the pying pyong balls for Mr Moose (whose their?) would arrive and on time be. The Hendersons will dance and sing (hoops, rong store) and Banana Man and the bunches of crones will lead all in choruses of "O Thoz Republik Ants"
Meanwhile, WHO cautions the Viscounts of Viruses? "Warning Warning Warning" "That does not compute!" B9/ M3
IRWIN & FIR
Hey Pete-
It was reported yesterday that he was "Dutch National"
Knep- Weren't the demons ordered by Christ to enter the swine and then they went crazy and ran of a cliff?
Come on, Sam, since when does what Prince Charles say have any relevance? "The global elite" ... my goodness, what a meaningless generalization that is. Isn't Bill Gates with his billions of dollars in charitable work also a member of the global elite?
While we're at it, isn't the Dalai Lama a member of the global elite? Wasn't Mother Teresa a member of the global elite? Or do you define elite as only those with material wealth? And by doing so, aren't you revealing that you put as much, if not more, emphasis on the importance of wealth than those conservatives whom you so disdain? You put emphasis on material wealth because you secretly covet it above all else. This is the dirty little secret of the modern liberal mind.
We must move beyond all this, I say!!
"But the high has to rise from the low
Like volcanoes explode through the snow
The mosquito sting brings a dream, but the poisons derange...
The music must change!
For we're chewing a bone.
We soared like the sparrow hawk flied
Then we dropped like a stone.
Like the tide and the waves
Moving slowly in range,
Crushing mountains as old as the Earth!
So the music must change."
(The Who)
LF
*Correction please*
"if the child from Matamoros traveled to Mex City then on to Brownsville where he fell ill"
Should read: 'if the child from Mex City traveled to Matamoros then on to Brownsville where he fell ill'
Sincerest apols Spence
Prince Charles of the House of Virus? C'mon, Lou, it's got a catchy ring to it!
Baron Spence Von Virus? Hmm
Count Louis the FilligerFlu? Sounds pretty good there!
Earl of SaamiViral?
From the August Review:
Every bit of thirty-five years of research indicates that there is a relatively small yet diverse group of global players who have been the planners and instigators behind globalization for many decades. The primary driving force that moves this "clique" is greed; the secondary force is the lust for power. In the case of the academics who are key to globalism, a third force is professional recognition and acceptance (a subtle form of egoism and power.)
It is also important to understand that core globalists have full understanding of their goals, plans and actions. They are not dimwitted, ignorant, missinformed or naive.
The global elite march in three essential columns: Corporate, Political and Academic. For the sake of clarity, these names will be used herein to refer to these three groups.
In general, the goals for globalism are created by Corporate. Academic then provides studies and white papers that justify Corporate's goals. Political sells Academic's arguments to the public and if necessary, changes laws to accommodate and facilitate Corporate in getting what it wants.
An important ancillary player in globalism is the media, which we will call Press in this report. Press is necessary to filter Corporate, Academic and Political's communications to the public. Press is not a fourth column, however, because it's purpose is merely reflective. However, we will see that Press is dominated by members of Corporate, Political and Academic who sit on the various boards of directors of major Press organizations.
Now I get insulted again. Sheesh. My 'dirty liberal mind' that's the best one I have heard yet on here.
Did you check what's on the Georgia Guidestones?
Did you check out Prince Charles quote out for yourself?
Actually it's less than 1% of the population controlling 95% of the world's resources.
This whole h1n1 is a big scam to scare the public from the stolen 10 trillion dollars by the international bankers. Where do you think the money is going to come from? You will be taxed on everything for the next 50 years or more to pay it back.
I never said I hated consersvatives, I dont know where you get that idea.
Actually the truth is Prince Philip said that and he was a stylized eugenicist at the time. To quote Prince Philip "In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation."
But, I like the "facts" Sam relates better.
Just for fun... let's look at it!!
Prince Charles of the House of Viral sounds pretty catchy.
Baron von Spencer von Virus? Hmm... I'll take IT!
Count Louis the FilligerFlu> That's the best!!!
Saami the Earl of Viral SaamiGoth? Well, you decide.
You do have me thinking about how we might all be some kind of virus incarnate, though.
Henry the Kissinger, Master of the Univirus!!!
Actually the truth is Prince Philip said that and he was a stylized eugenicist at the time. To quote Prince Philip "In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation."
But, I like the "facts" Sam relates better.
Just for fun... let's look at it!!
Prince Charles of the House of Viral sounds pretty catchy.
Baron von Spencer von Virus? Hmm... I'll take IT!
Count Louis the FilligerFlu> That's the best!!!
Saami the Earl of Viral SaamiGoth? Well, you decide.
You do have me thinking about how we might all be some kind of virus incarnate, though.
Henry the Kissinger, Master of the Univirus!!!
You forgot the obvious one:
"The Hurl of Spencer"
Don't know how socialists stay awake long enough to write their platforms. I think people at Democratic Party conventions tend to just vote the socialist planks in real quick rather than have to actually think about them or listen to that verbal cream of wheat just drone on and on. I'm starting to agree with Spencer, you take offense awfully easily. Did I go check out Prince Charles' quote? No, I said I don't care what he said, why would I go check it out? To make absolutely sure I didn't care?
Tempora mutantur, nos et mutamur in illis... nos tempus fugit!
(The times are changing, and we are changing with them... and time flies!)
'If truth be confronted then confront the truth'- Spencer
'No one is lost, surely, all are confounded'- Spencer
Sam is confounded by the truth-
de profundis
from WSJ filed late Friday 1, from Betsy McJay, at Atlanta, who will be a guest May 3, re the origins of the outbreak, what we know so far:
Tracking the Spread
Key developments on new flu outbreaks, according to CDC, WHO and government officials:
Deaths: 15 confirmed in Mexico and one confirmed in U.S., a toddler from Mexico who died in Texas.
Confirmed sickened world-wide, 562: 343 in Mexico; 149 in U.S.; 35 in Canada; 13 in Spain; 10 in Britain; four each in Germany and New Zealand; two in Israel; one each in Switzerland, Austria, China, Denmark and the Netherlands. Mexico is no longer releasing "suspected" numbers; the number of suspected cases was 2,498 before the tally was halted.
U.S. confirmed sickened, by state: 50 in New York; 28 in Texas; 18 in California; 16 in South Carolina; five in New Jersey; four each in Arizona and Delaware; three each in Indiana and Illinois; two each in Kansas, Colorado, Virginia, Michigan and Massachusetts; and one each in Ohio, Kentucky, Minnesota, Nebraska and Nevada.
Timeline of a Pandemic
On Wednesday, World Health Organization officials raised the alert level for A/H1N1 to phase 5, one step short of a full pandemic, as the disease continued to spread around the globe. See how the disease has spread, plus see the key for pandemic phases.
Phase 3 -- Through April 26, 2009
March 28, 2009: The first two known human cases of infection with the new flu strain are in the U.S. in late March, according to a report from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. A 9-year-old girl from Imperial County, Calif., reports symptoms on March 28, and a 10-year-old boy from San Diego County reports symptoms on March 30.
April 24: The U.S. reports seven confirmed human cases of the new flu strain. The government of Mexico reports an influenza-like illness in Mexico City; San Luis Potosi, in central Mexico; and Mexicali, near the U.S. border. Of the Mexican cases, 18 are confirmed as A/H1N1; 12 of those are genetically identical to the viruses from California. (See the WHO report.)
April 26: The U.S. reports 20 laboratory-confirmed human cases of swine influenza. Mexico reports 18 laboratory-confirmed cases and suspected cases in 19 of the country's 32 states. (See the WHO report.)
Phase 4 -- April 27 to April 29
April 27: Mexico reports 26 confirmed human cases of infection with the same virus, including seven deaths. The U.S. reports 40 confirmed human cases; Canada, six cases; and Spain, one case -- all with no deaths. (See the WHO report.)
April 28: Countries reporting laboratory-confirmed cases with no deaths are: the U.S. (64), Canada (6), New Zealand (3), the U.K. (2), Israel (2) and Spain (2). (See the WHO report.)
Phase 5 -- Entered April 29
April 29: The U.S. reports 91 confirmed human cases, with one death. Countries reporting laboratory-confirmed cases with no deaths are: Austria (1), Canada (13), Germany (3), Israel (2), New Zealand (3), Spain (4) and the U.K. (5). (See the WHO report.)
April 30: The U.S. reports 109 cases, with one death. Countries reporting laboratory-confirmed cases are: Austria (1), Canada (19), Germany (3), Israel (2), Netherlands (1), New Zealand (3), Spain (13), Switzerland (1) and the United Kingdom (8).
May 1: The U.S. reports 141 confirmed human cases in 19 states, with one death. The World Health Organization says 11 countries have officially reported 331 cases of infection. Countries reporting laboratory confirmed cases with no deaths are: Austria (1), Canada (34), Germany (3), Israel (2), Netherlands (1), New Zealand (3), Spain (13), Switzerland (1) and the United Kingdom (8).
What of the Hong Kong single case and the empirical quarantine of 300 at a hotel?
Reason for me to ask is that several days ago it was inferred (from Asian bio scientists) that if this strain becomes virulent in Asia it could be the catalyst for the seeming dormant avian to mutate.
In reality, as we seem to be breathing great sighs of relief, we could be relaxing prematurely. Hopefully China sees the peril.
Still, it seems to me that the nexus is Mex City.
Updated BBC 05:19UK
China says it will quarantine all those who traveled on a flight from Mexico with a man suffering from swine flu, in a bid to curb the spread of the virus.
The 25-year-old man flew to Hong Kong via Shanghai on Thursday, and was admitted to hospital.
Beijing said it would put his fellow passengers under week-long observation. It also suspended flights from Mexico.
The move came as South Korea confirmed a case of the virus, the second country in North-East Asia to do so.
Oh my the scary word -- socialism. I believe some Americans equate socialism with communism.
It doesnt matter the US has the highest mortality rate in the Western hemisphere.
It doesnt matter most Americans dont know where Canada is or any other state.
It doesnt matter that the Europeans have a higher standard of living, 2 month paid vacations, healthcare and have barely the same population of the US.
it doesnt matter the US spends more on the military industrial complex than any nation on earth.
It doesnt matter that US policy makers like former President Bush and Co who willfully acknowedgled they sanctioned torture and are not in jail.
It doesnt matter the US invaded Iraq on a Lie.
It doesnt matter a CIA covert operative position was compromised for political reaaons which is a treasonous act.
It doesnt matter the swine flu was man-made and released into the general public.
It doesnt matter that most virus come from the east migrate west.
It doesnt matter that the swine flu is out of season.
Im confounded by the truth -- please. Once again, reality must be 'liberal' biased.
Amen Brother!! I just knew you would eventually come around.
All that doesn't matter. Truth does...
Good luck with your new found sensibilities. If I can help again, feel free to Holla!!! I'm sure Lou will, too.
Keep saying "it doesn't matter" when confronted with those liars!!!
I give up ... really don't think you're trying to talk any sense here.
From the wackos on the left we have stuff like the above.
From the wackos on the right we have comparisons of AmeriCorps to the Hitler Youth.
I just wanna know who shot Kennedy, and I want my country back again. The country I was born in where people spoke the truth, spoke reasonably, and idiots were locked up in institutions rather than being permitted to roam the internet freely.
Whenever I read Lou, I see John Wayne - not in a bad way at all. He's the only one who manages to cut through the clutter without losing his bearings. We've lost our country. On that much we can all agree. And we want it back!
Rewind to the '50's: 'Have Gun Will Travel', 'The Rifleman', Bat Masterson', 'Rawhide'; then the '60's: 'Secret Agent', 'Man from U.N.C.L.E., 'Strange Report', Man in a Suitcase', just to name a few. All these were shows about strong men who knew how to identify a problem from the perspective of their principles. Then they went out and solved it.
Then, as now, it was the media that defined us. We all strove in some way to be like June or Ward Cleaver. (I have stopped watching television some time ago. So, I am no longer familiar with the characters that shape the aspirations of today's television watchers. From what I've seen in passing, however, it doesn't seem constructive or even hopeful.)
I must admit that Sam does occasionally make a good point. Unfortunately, his prejudice often betrays him. I always find Spencer interesting to read; though, for the life of me, I can't always follow what it is he's trying to say. Lou too has his prejudice (he has taken a stand); he is a patriot. And he's able to see through the all the diversionary flares that the various special interest groups regularly launch in order to confuse us. One thing I’m beginning to agree with Sam about though: I do think he’s right when he says that it’s only a very small number of people that are actually running the show. I disagree that Bush-Cheney were corrupt and a part of the scheme. ‘Inept’ is much more like it. The way these people were savaged – even (still) today – tells me that they belong to the same class of individuals as ‘we the people’ – victims.
My prejudices betray me?? I dont know how that is possible. I state the facts that I have read some of it may not agree with others sense of reality. It's not left or right or liberal or conservative here. It's a matter of truth over the constant barrage of propaganda brainwashing people have been getting through the tv, printed media and some internet websites. I agree some people may agree to disagree with me. Call me names and attack the messenger versus looking at the message instead or least check the information out for themselves.
The flouridization in the water which purposely dumbs people down. The US has the highest amount of flouride in their drinking water. The megacorporations which put unneeded chemicals further dumbing down and soft killing the population. I wont go into chemtrails since that is only a 'conspiracy theory."
As I said the swine flu is a scam. I dont believe it. There has only been one death and rest have not been confirmed cases. Those cases which have been verified turned out to be common flu. WHO and Big Phrama are waiting to give us mercury filled vaccinnes with the real flu to kill some of the population off so it will hamper the further anger against the collective governments and international bankers.
I have been taking a stand for my country. I want it back too.
Sam- While sinister mega forces are killing off US citizens softly, the life expectancy of the population has continued to steadily increase- not too long ago, weren't you yipping and growling about Social Security and how it was going to be unsustainable to maintain the ever growing aged?
You wrote: "I state the facts that I have read some of it may not agree with others sense of reality. It's not left or right or liberal or conservative here. It's a matter of truth over the constant barrage of propaganda brainwashing people have been getting through the tv, printed media and some internet websites." *You constantly nullify your own arguments and you are consistently a purveyor of innuendo and lies. The only thing you carry is the stench from the practice of surfeit.*
*You are spewing regurgitated foulness as your "message" and in doing so, you sully this serious forum that Mr B allows us to participate in. You talk about insults? I'm affronted that you try and pass all these "facts" (as you see them) off as if we are completely stupid. Actually, the truth is, you insult all of us and when one of us takes you to task, you play the "prove me wrong" pity game like some adolescent .*
You wrote: "I have been taking a stand for my country. I want it back too." I ask again, *Where is your country?*
Sam - Anyone who argues any point betrays a prejudice - including me. It simply means that we have taken a stand; that we believe in something. In today's political climate this is not a sin. I respect you for your views; your facts are consistent; you are articulate. There is nothing more a reader could wish for.
Yesterday evening I sat through part of a convocation address by Kumar Shahani (a noted Indian film director), for graduates at the Asian College of Journalism. There was nothing surprising in it, other than the standard Marxist talking points (blame Bush; blame Thatcher; Reagan; laud Che; laud Obama). I left before the address was over - not because I was annoyed but - because I was bored (and hungry).
The panel was lamenting the demise of the old media (newspapers) while at the same time making a large point of having dispensed with the concept of competition at the college. They, including the editor-in-chief of The Hindu (newspaper), N. Ram, received a standing ovation by the handful of graduating students every time they mentioned it. Ironically, in the very next breath they stressed that they wanted their graduates to be ready for the 'real' world where presumably ideology suffices and no competition exists.
All I'm saying, Sam, is that you (as well as others) have a right to your opinions (you call it 'facts' which you must admit you choose selectively); but, for heaven's sake, do make it interesting (which you do). If I am bored, I reserve the right to skip out early.
Great soliloquy on appeasement, Peter- let the lies stand as truth and let the liars run rampant. Reagan did not utter a word before the IraRevos set the hostages free!! Until then, it was hopeless and futile.
Sam- While sinister mega forces are killing off US citizens softly, the life expectancy of the population has continued to steadily increase- not too long ago, weren't you yipping and growling about Social Security and how it was going to be unsustainable to maintain the ever growing aged?
You wrote: "I state the facts that I have read some of it may not agree with others sense of reality. It's not left or right or liberal or conservative here. It's a matter of truth over the constant barrage of propaganda brainwashing people have been getting through the tv, printed media and some internet websites." *You constantly nullify your own arguments and you are consistently a purveyor of innuendo and lies. The only thing you carry is the stench from the practice of surfeit.*
*As a result, you are just spewing regurgitated foulness as your "message" and in doing so, you sully this serious forum that Mr B allows us to participate in. You talk about insults? I'm affronted that you try and pass all these "facts" (as you see them) off as if we are completely stupid. Actually, the truth is, you insult all of us and when one of us takes you to task, you play the "prove me wrong" pity game like some adolescent .*
You wrote: "I have been taking a stand for my country. I want it back too." I ask again, *Where is your country?*
Peter:
I dont think disagreeing with a point is prejudice. Anyway, Im not going to dwell on it.
Thank you for the compliments. You are well spoken and carry your points of view quite clearly.
I come onto this website to get a different perspective, point of view and find it quite interesting.
There are some things I feel are not being said in the mainstream media and I feel I am that voice of the facts that have been keeping many Americans, Canadians etc...from the truth that has been hidden from us by the powers-that-be.
I'm in Canada, what does it matter if I was in Europe or Japan. Truth is truth.
It's called freedom of speech which everyone is entitled too.
Mr B has the right to regulate the blog/forum which everyway he sees fit, I totally agree with that.
I never called anyone stupid, perhaps, people have not read or know this information which I have read. That some of this information may not be popular with the current mindset then I understand. However, "spewing regurgitated foulness as your 'message' and in doing so" is far from what I have been doing.
Acting like an adolescent, I dont think so. All I ask if someone doubts me then look it up. What's wrong with that?
If someone challenges my points then I will gladly agree or disagree with someone depending on the topic.
Sure, e\you expect everyone else to check your stories and then what-- when you're proven wrong (which I've done many times) you still keep bring the same old stuff that's been regurgitated for a few decades now. You have yet to say you were wrong after being shown you were even about something as brandishing and easily verified as attributing quotes to the correct person. You need to check things for yourself before passing them on to others.
I wish I could just let you drop that dirt and not be offended and just let it slide... but, now you've been talking like you have some brilliant "message" and you are a "messenger" of some great revelation when it is really just more hogwash ( sorry, dear swine.) *I try very hard to be relevant and get it right and I know others here on Mr B's comments section do, too. I can't even imagine what Mr B goes through to get his material together, but, we all should be respectful and try to do our research as best we can out of respect for him.*
You say we are being brainwashed by all the media, but, your sources are impeccable?
I say it's all been rebutted thousands of times by professionals who don't neccessarily claim to "have a message"