Aurora Scandinavia, August 2011.
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JOHN BATCHELOR SHOW podcast
link:
http://wabcradio.com/sectional.asp?id=33447
Co-host:
Malcolm
Hoenlein, Conference of Presidents
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Thursday
905P Eastern Time: Yuli
Edelstein, Minister of Public Affairs and the Diaspora, Israel, in re:
Thursday
920P Eastern Time: David
Patterson, Hillel Feinberg Chair in Holocaust Studies, Ackerman Center for
Holocaust Studies, University of Texas at Dallas, and author, A Genealogy of
Evil: Anti-Semitism from Nazism to Islamic Jihad, in re: Current
anti-Jewish expressions mostly from not antique sources but from Sayyid Quttb,
founder of the Muslim Brotherhood - "the demonic Jews," "the
world Jewish conspiracy" - and the Hamas charter refers to Israel as a
"Zionist space for world domination." Cannot negotiate with
Jews any more than they could negotiate with Satan. "The greatest
obstacle to peace between Israelis and Palestinians is virulent, jihadist
hatred of Jews. Hamas and Fatah have developed a theological and ideological
justification that precludes any negotiations that would lead to a lasting
peace with a Jewish state. At best, one can expect an application of the PLO's
phased strategy, which gives the illusion of peace without renouncing its goal
of Jewish extermination. Neither Hamas nor Fatah can agree in good faith to any
peace with the Jews since in their eyes to do so would amount to treason or
apostasy or both."
Thursday
935P Eastern Time: Dore
Gold, Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs and author, The Rise of Nuclear
Iran: How Tehran Defies the West, in re: Abbas and Palestinian
leaders didn't build a scenario in advance of heir attempt to create a UDI
(unilateral declaration of independence). The European Union is torn and not
pleased. Pres Obama has spent enormous political capital on a peace process and
asked Abbas to pull back on the process, which he declined to do.
Palestinian campaign has antagonized and alienated many of the world's
leaders. In Ramallah and West Bank, 80,000 people got the day of but not
many showed up for the demonstration. This campaign is not only for
Palestinian independence but to remove Israel's rights to secure boundaries.
Defensible borders are a major aspect of negotiations; Min Edelstein quotes
Abba Eban: "The 1967 borders are the Auschwitz lines." Abbas
refuses to speak of two states for two peoples; will speak only of Palestinian
rights, never of Jewish rights.
Thursday
950P Eastern Time: Mortimer
B. Zuckerman, chairman & editor-in-chief, U.S. News & World Report;
publisher, New York Daily News; co-founder & chairman, Boston Properties,
in re: UDI. Pres Obama made clear that he thought there should be
no other option but a negotiated settlement between the Palestinian Authority
and Israel; was clear on why security is central to the discussion. Stark
difference to the past: he may have been annoyed at treatment that Israel gets
at the UN, and is highly displeased with the conduct of Abbas. Further,
he's rebuffed the many attempts to establish a private channel for discussions.
Question of whether or not under Netanyahu's administration there's been
serious interest in negotiated solution; this is an unfair analysis because
Bibi has continued to make very strong efforts. Bibi's efforts to be
amiable and make amicable concessions have been ignored, generating a somewhat
cooler tone in response. PA still refuses to speak of two states for two
peopes. Note that the 1967 borders were not recognized, not defensible, not
workable. Pres Obama does speak of a Jewish state, meaning in essence
that Israel will not accept a million Palestinian refugees.
Thursday
1005P (705P Pacific Time): Michael Oren, Israeli ambassador to the US, and author, in re: We're
working with many nations to [cease] the UDI, which, we're convinced, will not
lead to peace. Pres Clinton's remarks contrast with Pres Obama's: that Israel
has not done enough to contribute to the peace process. Unjustified and
empirically not accurate. Netanyahu has removed hundreds of checkpoints, much
increased transport in and out of Gaza, stopped all bldg in settlements.
In response to these and many other important moves to accommodate
Palestinians, Abbas has allowed a total of six hours of talks over these two
years and refuses to speak of the right of the Jewish people to establish a
state in their ancestral homeland and will not absorb a million or more
overseas Palestinians or allow a culmination resulting in Israel's dissolution.
Russians balking at a joint formula. Palestinians have refused negotiations for
quite a while. Abbas wrote on 16 May in the New York Times,
"Internationalizing the conflict; suing Israel in the International
Criminal Court" - all toward aggravating the conflict. We aspire to having
Palestinians and Israelis live side by side in harmony. JB: Thousands of
rockets in Gaza, ready to use them. MO: Abbas has made a reconciliation
act with Hamas, an avowedly genocidal organization. Can hit every city in
Israel with ever-bigger and more accurate rockets. How can you make peace
with people who specifically want to murder you?
Thursday
1020P (720P Pacific Time): Dr Yuval Steinitz, Minister of Finance; formerly active in Peace
Now, in re: Israel's economy, Palestinian aid. Spoke to Bloomberg calling
Israel's economy "vibrant" - 4.8% GDP [shockingly better than US
--ed]. Our success is beyond pre-crisis level, based, inter al., on
high tech dvpt. We had to take painful steps [to clear out old problems],
and they worked. One thing we did differently from most other Western countries
to protect us from the global crisis: we decided that the future is more
relevant to the present than is the present, itself. Focussed on longer-term
reforms. We shifted the country to bi-annual [two-yr] budgets. First country in
world history that shifted to a 24-mo budgeting cycle, which contributed
immensely to our ability to handle the crisis and regain stability and growth.
I see UDI as a betrayal of the peace process: no need to acknowledge
Israel - to which we need to react: Fine you're acting unilaterally, collect
your own VAT, we won't collect it for you. Level of foreign investment in
Israel is greater than pre-crisis; we also give tax incentives for exporting
films - 12%; in Galilee and Negev, 6%.
Thursday
1035P (735P Pacific Time): Danny
Ayalon, Deputy Foreign Minister & Member of the Knesset, in re: JB:
"Ahmadinejad, a clown in clown's costume." DA: Erdogan's speech
- it was very disappointing to hear a major leader speak in a way that's not
responsible or conducive to furthering the well-being of peoples throughout the
Middle East. His support of Hamas is not becoming of a NATO country.
Where does Turkey want to go: NATO and Western world, or the way of Iran.
I decided hat it was time to spell out the objective facts in response to
the blatant lies of Palestinians, calling Israel an occupier and denier of
human rights. When student spoke of "free Palestine," I thought it was
important to point out that there's never been a Palestinian state in history. If
there is one, the irony will be that it will have been the Jews who created it.
Since the Balfour Declaration, Israel has been ready to make concessions,
while it has always been the Palestinians who refused. Syria: Syrian
people burning flags - not of Israel and the US, but of Iran and Hizballah.
Today, Syria is Iran's best ally, the only Arab country that sided with Iran
and so created a gateway to the Mediterranean for Teheran, thence to Gaza,
Egypt, Sinai, Libya. I believe that he people of Iran are readier than
any other in the region to claim freedom, and a fall of Assad would be a
favorable signal. Historic forces acting again to see a clash between an
Ottoman resurgence and the Persians. Note that all Arab countries today
are artificial states - Syria, Lebanon, Iraq - only Egypt has a long tradition.
May return to tribes, mullahs, religious and sub-religion groups. The
danger is that the Islamists will take over, and Iran is moving to highjack all
liberation movements.
Thursday
1050P (750P Pacific Time): Golnaz Esfandiari, Senior Correspondent, RFE/RL's Central
Newsroom; editor, Persian Letters blog, in re: Ahmadinejad's speech;
Iran's internal situation. He claims
that the West is using the Holocaust just to support Israel - important to know
that he loves media attention and will say anything to get it. NBC aired "the
first-ever behind-the-scenes portrait" - he prays at 5AM, goes jogging,
works and works, is a caring fellow who travels to faraway provinces to help
poor people. Emphatically not a true picture. As he was speaking, there was a
protest outside against him, simultaneous with an online Iranian protest
insisting that "he's not my president." Escalating power struggle between Pres Ahmadinejad and Supreme
Leader Khamenei. When Ahmadinejad tried to fire his Intelligene Minister, Khamenei
prevented it. Ahmadinejad responded
by refusing to go to work for eleven days, but then had to. he's now a weakened
president struggling for survival inside the country. Syria is a gateway to the
region for Iran; may be a change on tone of Iranian officials toward Assad,
suggesting discussions between the regime and the populace - not because Iran
cares, but because political winds are shifting. Arab Spring in Iran? In 2009,
millions of Iranians took to the streets, faced a brutal crackdown that
continues till today, The demand for change is still there, against a deeply
repressive government, so the opposition movement has had to go underground.
Thursday
1105P (805P Pacific Time): Malcolm Hoenlein, in re: JB travelled to the Golan Heights,
not to the "finger of Israel" - orchards, volcanic rock, a great deal
of military eqpt moving in volume. I looked over the borders toward Damascus.
This are was once Syria, the local Druse consider themselves still Syrian, and
make extremely threatening remarks about "occupied Syria " in north
of Israel. Tens of thousands of rockets ready to go to Israel. MH: One op on the flotilla boat also anticipated
in the attack in the Black Sea on a Russian ship. JB: Turkey is constrained by Cyprus, having badly misbehaved
there; also very threatened by PKK, the Kurds. Both Iranians and __ have access
to the Kurds, can turn them on and off.
Also, both Israel, and Russia and Ukraine, have dropped visa
requirements for citizens - sending many thousands of Russians and Ukrainians
to visit Israel, esp on pilgrimage.
Thursday
1120P (820P Pacific Time): Mary Kissel, WSJ editorial board, in re: housing
Thursday
1135P (835P Pacific Time): Aaron Task, Yahoo Finance Daily Ticker, in re: market collapse
Thursday
1150P (850P Pacific Time): Thaddeus
McCotter (MI-11), in re: heart of the problem is the failure of banks to lend to the credit market. Wall Street bailout by Bernanke continues; the taxpayers in shift of generational wealth, see their money heading up to the rich. When there was an effort a few years ago to break up Citibank, Tim Geithner protected the bank. Current problem is Bank of America. TARP failed; Congressional colleagues express concern about the economy without looking atthe root of the problem. Need to end big-govt subsidization of the big banks that are otherwise in failure. Leverage limits need to be such that they're never too big to fail. Banks "too big to jail"; caught red-handed, banks promise to ameliorate then never do anything, but Treasury is too understaffed to follow up. UN as global Tammany Hall. US needs to move to a Liberty Alliance
Thursday/Fri
1205A (905 Pacific Time): Eli Shukrun, chef archaeologist, City of David, in re: excavation of an ancient drainage tunnel beneath Jerusalem, which has yielded a sword, oil lamps, pots and coins abandoned during a war there 2,000 years ago. The finds were seen to be debris from a pivotal episode in the city's history when rebels hid from Roman soldiers crushing a Jewish revolt. The tunnel was intended to drain rainwater, but is also thought to have been used as a hiding place for the rebels during the time of the Second Temple in Jerusalem. That temple was razed, along with much of the city, by Roman legionnaires putting down the Jewish uprising in 70 C.E. Found a lint that goes back to 12,000 BCE.
Thursday/Fri 1220A
(920 Pacific Time): Robert Zimmerman, in re: climate change; photo of the little bot Opportunity on Mars
Thursday/Fri 1235A
(935P Pacific Time): Dore
Gold, Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs and author, The Rise of
Nuclear Iran: How Tehran Defies the West, in re: Abbas and
Palestinian leaders didn't build a scenario in advance of heir attempt to
create a UDI (unilateral declaration of independence). The European Union is
torn and not pleased. Pres Obama has spent enormous political capital on a
peace process and asked Abbas to pull back on the process, which he declined to
do. Palestinian campaign has antagonized and alienated many of the
world's leaders. In Ramallah and West Bank, 80,000 people got the day of
but not many showed up for the demonstration. This campaign is not only
for Palestinian independence but to remove Israel's rights to secure boundaries.
Defensible borders are a major aspect of negotiations; Min Edelstein quotes
Abba Eban: "The 1967 borders are the Auschwitz lines." Abbas
refuses to speak of two states for two peoples; will speak only of Palestinian
rights, never of Jewish rights.
Thursday/Fri 1250A (950P
Pacific Time): Exeunt. UARS satellite soon to disintegrate and fall to earth. Church of the Holy Sepulchre now half-filled with Russian and Ukrainian pilgrims arrived under new regime whereby Israel and Russia (and Ukraine) no longer oblige each other's citizens to obtain a visa. Knelt on the Anointing Stone, placed infants and crucifixes on it. Church built in Fourth Century, rebuilt by Constantine.
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Music
Hour 1
Sherlock Holmes by Hans Zimmer
Assassin's Creed by Jesper Kyd
Hour 2
Metal Gear Solid 4 by Nobuko Toda
Prince of Persia by Harry Gregson-Williams
Hour 3
Mummy Returns by Alan Silvestri
Frost/Nixon by Hans Zimmer
The Ghost Writer by Alexandre Desplat
Hour 4
The Ghost Writer by Alexandre Desplat
Star Trek by Michael Giacchino
Assassin's Creed by Jesper Kyd
Thirteen Days by Trevor Jones